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IPA Social: 10 conversation starters

by Robin Grant in News on 12 October 2009 at 16:25

Social Media is a conversation. That seems to be one thing that we all agree on

Last week, Nathan, Sandrine, Leila, Simon, Seb and I went along to the launch of IPA Social, where Neil Perkin presented their 10 conversation starters:

You can read all 10 in full here (which I highly recommend doing):

  1. Mark EarlsPeople not consumers
  2. Le’Nise BrothersSocial agenda not business agenda
  3. John WillshireContinuous conversation not campaigning
  4. Faris YakobLong term impacts not quick fixes
  5. Katy LindemannMarketing with people not to people
  6. Neil PerkinBeing authentic not persuasive
  7. Jamie CoomberPerpetual beta
  8. Amelia TorodeTechnology changes, people don’t
  9. Graeme WoodChange will never be this slow again
  10. Asi SharabiMeasure and evaluate

As the IPA’s President, Rory Sutherland says:

At a time when the population of Facebook is now greater than all but three countries in the world, and when BT is delivering customer service via twitter, this is an area which forces us to question many of our ingrained assumptions about advertising, brands and intangible value.

and from Mark Earls’ scene setting essay:

For all the excitement today around the Twitters and Facebooks, the tougher problems for the advertising industry to get to grips with are all rooted in the way social media – the stuff that connects humans with other humans – changes the game for our clients and society at large.

IPA Social is an admirable initiative, one which we’ll continue to participate in, and their 10 principles are an excellent overview of how brands need to come to terms with social media, representing the thinking of some the greatest minds in modern advertising (all of whom are good friends of ours). The launch event was also a great evening, focused on starting conversations rather than presenting a revealed truth.

However, it still was very focused on traditional ‘advertising’, with a large proportion of time spent hearing about VCCP’s Compare the Meerkat campaign. We split out into groups towards the end of the event and in the group I led, we discussed whether campaigns like Compare the Meerkat are really social media campaigns. Although the campaign has rich presences in social media, we’re weren’t sure that was a factor in it’s success. We felt it was the strength of the creative idea and the media spend at work here – and the fact that Oasis’ Rubberduckzilla has substantially more fans than Aleksandr the Meerkat on Facebook, despite no attempts to engage with social media helps re-enforce this point. It was felt that real social media campaigns are ones where the conversation itself drives the success of the campaign (like our This is Now campaign for Ford).

I also couldn’t miss joining in the discussion about which types of agency were best suited for social media. The point I made was as follows. Over the last ten years digital agencies stole a march on above the line agencies by building bigger, better and more motivated specialist teams. This let them innovate faster and develop a critical mass of best practise that accelerated the skills gap between them and their above-the-line competitors. Specialist social media agencies will do the same to digital and other agencies. To use We Are Social as an example, who else has a team of twenty experienced practitioners, entirely focused on innovative, creative and effective social media marketing and communications? Each day and each new hire widens the gap between us and those in pursuit.

Overall, I left feeling comforted that the specialist agencies’ lead in social media was safe for some time to come…

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  • Good list there Robin. The first point is great - and usually forgotten. Also 'people, not professionals' often goes wonky. Time to stop Marketing and start talking, no? : ) I posted something earlier on some of these themes... ref the old 'stop building stuff' discussion. One of your faves, I know. See - http://www.contentandmotion.co.uk/blog/pr-socia...
  • Good post R. Reminds me of http://www.internet-manifesto.org/ - I think we should add #12 'Tradition is not a business model'.
  • Some valid observations Robin... though I do feel the "who's best placed?" argument is somewhat acadamic. For me, social media is so exciting at the moment because how one uses it is constantly evolving; people are working out how to use it in exactly the same way that marketers and agencies are. Although some "be nice" etc. behavioural parameters are emerging, there are no hard and fast rules of engagement.

    So to my mind which agency is best placed depends, as usual, on the nature of the Client's problem and their objectives. I can see how We Are Social's set-up is perfect for some Clients, but other situations still demand the "Compare the Meerkat" type idea which you may not be structured to deliver (but that's ok, as it's not what you do).

    On a separate note it's well worth reading Mark Hancock's recent post (http://bit.ly/dTC71) about a few emerging models that socially based technology enables.
  • Hey Robin, great post. I think the question of who is best suited to utilising social media is answered by asking, who actually understand what social media can do for a brand?
    I think the marketplace (and perhaps even human nature - from a consumer point of view) has changed. We have entered an "Age of Reciprocity" - the relationships between brands and consumers have, in most instances, I believe, matured and developed to a point where the nature of the 'buy and sell' dynamic is fully understood and appreciated - 'I like your product therefore I buy it, in so doing you make money' - simple but often forgotten by brands. Once this is accepted, from a brands perspective, they can move on to more important aspects of building their brand relationships with customers. What can they give back? A perfect example was Guinness' Arthur's Day in which the proceeds of the events went to charity. The consumer got the good feeling of giving to charity while also getting a great night out at a very reasonable price. The brand made money from the sale of its product and also boosted its CRS profile. This 'reciprocity' is fully understood by the consumer and appreciated.
    Within all of this social media is the perfect tool to connect with customers because all you actually want to do is talk to them and communicate what activities you are doing - you effectively remove the 'selling' from the conversation. I think if that's how brands approach social media they can fully understand its power.
  • Great post Robin. You've hit the nail on the head when you make the point about a conversation being led by Ford being a truer representation of a social media campaign than Compare The Meerkat, which is regarded as a SM success. CTM is a great creative which tickled everybody's imaginations offline which spilled over online as a, be it well managed and executed, sub-campaign.

    I agree with James where he says "which agency is best placed depends, as usual, on the nature of the Client's problem and their objectives". I think larger digital communications groups will always have a place alongside those which are more nimble yet smaller.

    What is great with the way our industry is developing at the moment is that each type of agency/group is, and will continue to, learn from each other, providing our clients with more effective solutions. But more importantly, we've got an opportunity to instigate institutional change making brands more honest and transparent and delivering a better service for consumers.
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